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 Post subject: file size vs save time
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:30 pm 
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Hi Folks,
I've noticed that when you do a decent sized job in moldmaker, you can easily end up with a file that's 400-500 Mb. When you hit save, this can take a couple of minutes to ssave. This is better than it was a while back (that took a good few minutes for the same sort of sized file) but is still a long time. The thing is that I find that I'm not saving as often as I'd like to because of this increased time. We're saving across a network so I know this will increase the save time but even if I save to my desktop, it's still a long time to wait. I thought I'd seen somewhere that PowerSHAPE can just save what's changed since you last saved. Is this still the case or has that been put to one side.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:10 am 
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Hi Mick - Save is incrememtal, i.e. it only saves what has changed since the last save. It's a lot faster than it used to be. One possibility might be to do all your saves locally, then copy the part a couple of times a day to the network. Would that be feasible?


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 Post subject: Re: file size vs save time
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:24 pm 
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Hi Jon,
The job that I'm on at the moment is 221Mb. It takes 135 seconds to save across our, admittedly slow, network. It takes 75 seconds to save to my desktop. So, like you say, if I save locally I'm way better off. The only problem is that I'll have to remember to copy the part onto our network in order for it to go on our nightly backup. The odd thing is that if I hit save immediately after hitting save (i.e. nothing's changed) it still takes 67 seconds to save the part to my desktop. Does that sound about right to you, I would have thought that if nothing's changed the save would have be all but instant.

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 Post subject: Re: file size vs save time
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:17 pm 
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I would have thought that if nothing's changed the save would have be all but instant.

So would I....

Can you supply a sample through the 'usual channels' so we can investigate?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:41 pm 
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Hi Jon,
There's a copy of the model on the usual spot on your FTP site. Let me know how you get on.

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 Post subject: Re: file size vs save time
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:42 pm 
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might be "SCAN" time to see if anything has changed

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Hi Jon,
Did the model I sent you help with finding out how come incremental saves take as long as they do?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:28 am 
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We have reproduced the problem, and development are investigating.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:45 pm 
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Hi Jon,
Now that we're confident that it's a bug, can someone let me know when we can expect a fix for this.

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 Post subject: Re: file size vs save time
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:29 pm 
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I didn't actually say that it was a bug...... :D


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:51 pm 
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Okay... So it's a feature then!! :D


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:12 pm 
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yes it is a new feature added to allow time for the coffee break.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Hi Jon,
Now come on... seriously... you're just fooling with me aint'ya!!
So let's imagine that you've got a D.O. with 4 people in it (as we have).
They all hit save every half hour and they all do a 10 hour day (so that's 20 saves each).
They all work a 5 day week.
Thay all work 46 weeks per year
Each save takes 1 minute (although they often take longer).
So that's 4X20X5X46=400
=18400 minutes per year saving
=306 hours per year
If your company charged just £30 per hour that's £9200 per year saving.
If you work on a 25% mark up, that means you've got to make £36800 of tooling just to offset the expense of this time.
Wow... that's a shocker!!

One unintended side effect of this extended save time is that I can come on here and post a lot (although I'm not sure that you'll think that's a good thing or not :D ).

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Mick.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:53 am 
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wow...YOU GUYS GET 6 WEEKS VACATION A YEAR???? :shock: :shock:
52wk - 46wks = 6wks
we must be doing it wrong over here :? :? :?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:31 am 
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Hi Bruce,
Including Christmas, Easter and Bank Holidays etc, we get 33 days, in total, per year. That's pretty average for the UK. What do you get?

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Mick.


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